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Subject: Does this case illustate the wrong kind (for learning) of collaboration?

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Debra Macfarlane
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28/05/2007 22:39  
This question comes from Steve's initial facilitator questions for discussion.

Posted By Steve Draper on 25/05/2007 15:28


3] Is my suggestion that the wrong kind (for learning) of collaboration could be going on in the Bali & Keaney case worth taking seriously, or probably misguided?
(to answer this question please post in the Bali and Keaney case study thread)[/quote]

The reasoning behind Steve's question is below:

Posted By Steve Draper on 25/05/2007 15:26

A sign supporting this interpretation is that the
By requiring individual answers first, they ensure everyone thinks about the question themselves rather than waiting for someone else: a crucial advantage of such EVS use over asking oral questions in class where most students wait to see what others will say. However it is not clear that the 60 seconds conferring before the second vote really supports learning as well as, say, the Mazur method for EVS use. If you want your team to win, you will listen for the most confident suggestion, but will not have time to ask for reasons or correct your understanding. It may be more like organised plagiarism than conceptual development. Most groups outside education are organised around specialisation: each member primarily does their job, and does not try to learn others' jobs but simply coordinates their actions with others. In learning, in contrast, a different kind of cooperation is required, that will eventually leave every member equally knowledgable. This classroom setup may not be designed to achieve this, and the data on their second votes does not necessarily, or even probably, reflect their knowledge still less their understanding (ability to justify their vote).





Debra Macfarlane
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28/05/2007 22:44  
Hi Steve

In relation to question 3, which I think is a very interesting one, especially given the limited timeframe they have for collaboration, do you think we need to take into account the level of the students? In the Sharp and Sutherland case study, the students are level 3, so we might realistically expect more complex engagement from the learners than at level 1. However, I'm assuming here that the students in the Bali and Keaney case study are perhaps on their 1st year. Not sure from the paper.
Debra
Maha Bali
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29/05/2007 03:28  
The students in the Bali and Keaney case study (ours) are of various levels - they key thing, though, is that "Middle Eastern history", the subject of the course, is usually NOT their discipline. So regardless of their overall maturity, none of them are experts in the subject matter of the course.
Chris Hall
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29/05/2007 12:35  
I saw the basis behind this case study as motivating/engaging the learners in the content, and encouraging group study at an early stage.

That because they had to give group responses and discussion as part of the assessment, i see that as motivation to work together as a group before the in class assessment.

Whether that motivation would be sustainable after the class, and used for other collaboration, i'm not sure.

I wouldn't say that this type of collaboration was wrong, but it is different to that mentioned in the Sharp and Sutherland paper.

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